Climate Thoughts

Mar 18, 2020:  I posted the below Electroverse comment on Facebook also. They claim “fact-checkers” said this is “incorrect”.  Do you believe that?  Do you believe we know everything about climate science? or even enough to blame one thing?  Who is pushing what agenda?  God save us.

Mar 11, 2020: Electroverse analysis taking geologists into account, claims the sun did it.  One of their bullet points states that Wikipedia has eliminated lists of scientists who disagree.  Dissent is not allowed apparently.

Mar 8, 20: something new today: record snow along with global warming? tell me how that works.

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Judith Curry, PhD climate scientist at Georgia Tech.

https://tambonthongchai.com/ Chemical engineer with statistics research.

Friends of Science definitely do not believe in Global Warming Panic

IPCC on complex systems (climate being one)

The “Pro” side as presented by Wikipedia.

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I will not call it science, as I am not a climate scientist. I do think about it; especially in view of what I have learned from diet science.

A friend asked me if I believed in Global Warming. I do believe there is Global Climate Variation.  There have been multiple (apparently periodic) Ice Ages. What is happening now?  I do not have an answer. But I do not think anyone else does either. And, since this is a political football,  I wonder if the “science” is better than nutrition science has been.

Can they interrelate (in a non-linear manner) the following items? Not just blame Exxon Mobile, or cattle based methane,  CO2, etc

I believe it is a multi-factor problem, probably fractal in nature. So its description with linear math seems incredibly naive.

Here is a list of some things I am aware of that I never hear discussed in the media.

  • Precession of the equinoxes (Axial Precession)

  • Milankovitch cycles

  • Maunder Minimum – and other sunspot variations

  • Changes in solar output, from other sources

  • Volcanoes

  • Cultivation of annuals vs perennials

  • Grasslands such as the Great Plains – these two items are tempting when looking at pictures I have posted recently.

  • Forest such as Amazon

  • Greenhouse gases from natural sources

  • Livestock

  • Paving large areas of previously forest and grassland

  • Changes in flow of the Gulf Stream, I know this is fractal.

  • Ocean floor activity (added Sept 2019)

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Dec 11, 2019: This Electroverse article  addresses these things also.

This NASA page was given to me as proof of CO2 causing AGW, not the sun.  Holy Cow! Ever been outside during a solar eclipse? Unless you think the sun never changes its output (it does), this article proves how stupid AGW believers (NOT scientists) are.

Dec 10, 2019: climate realists posted this 37 page PDF. It was delivered to the Climate Summit in Madrid.

Nov 25, 2019: 170 year and 1030 year cycles in climate? 5 minute video pretty interesting. The 1:30 mark starts to talk about a scientist who predicted the climate in the early 1900’s.

And since I am rolling: From: A German study:     Zéro émission est une tromperie

Nov 3, 2019: Interested in some insight on AGW?  The less you know the scarier it gets. The article on Multimerization (2) on that list is also informative. They blame things on Total Solar Output.  She analyzes from a statistical validity point of view.

Oct 31, 2019: temperatures in the atmosphere are related to Total Solar Output. Not simple to read – so might not get to the politicians.

Oct 1, 2019: a tweet which gets to the very core of Climate Stuff:
@madwestafrican

“If you ask me what I think, I believe it’s a shame that the climate extremists are propping up a child as their puppet. What people don’t tell you reveals their true intentions. The fact that they revealed a child instead of an “educated” adult shows they plan to play emotions.”

Sep 26, 2019: very nice explanation of how the money will flow if Climate Hysteria works. From Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT PhD.  

Sep 21, 2019:  Astrophysicist article

“Global warming clearly is a problem, though not in the catastrophic terms of Al Gore’s movies or environmental alarmists,” said Shaviv. “Climate change has existed forever and is unlikely to go away. But CO2 emissions don’t play the major role. Periodic solar activity does.

But I thought that 97% of climate scientists agreed that human activity is the main driver of climate change?

“Only people who don’t understand science take the 97% statistic seriously,” said Shaviv. “Survey results depend on who you ask, who answers and how the questions are worded.  In any case, science is not a democracy. Even if 100% of scientists believe something, one person with good evidence can still be right.”

Sep 15, 2019:

Maria Romanetti @WriterRomana
Climate modeling is just that–its a big computer program fed lots of hand picked variables. We determine the quality of our model on how well it predicts outcomes over time. So far, all the models suck.”

Sep 14, 2019 #2:ClimateEnergy

Sep 14, 2019:   One of the AGW skeptics thinks blaming it on the sun is also wrong. Think she is asserting that we do not know. Astonishing thought today! We do not know. The very idea of asking for facts is amazing today! On both sides of the issue.

Thongchai @Thongch34759935

“Skeptics: “It’s the sun.  Then skeptics look for solar cycles and find them. Lot’s of them” and get so excited in their denialism fantasy that they propose the Milankovitch cycle to explain centennial & millennial time scale warming and cooling cycles.”Solar

Sep 12, 2019:  From Twitter: Thongchai @Thongch34759935:::  “Yes madam, it has been quite clear lately that the climate movement is really unrequited anti fossil fuel activism disguised as climate science ”

Climate Oil Activist “We’re in Houston to shut down oil export & resist Trump & the oil industry for fueling the ClimateCrisis”

And here is the OIL ACTIVIST, in her oil based cap, oil made glasses and oil made reflective jacket. She hates oil!🐦🤔👹🧐OIl

Think about this even though the date is old. It would explain a lot of the personal hypocrisy. UN_Climate

Climate

Aug 19, 2019: some quotes from the Climate Emergency Guys.

Aug 15, 2019: This is a co-founder of Greenpeace: Patrick Moore @EcoSenseNow

“Christopher Booker exposes the deceit of the climate mafia. We are being lied to.
“The fiddling with temperature data is the biggest science scandal ever” – Telegraph

July 22, 2019:  I believe I learned somewhere that trees take in CO2 and release oxygen. That makes Korea extremely prescient in cutting down trees to put up solar panels to reduce CO2.     Should I reverse my July 17 comment?

As of July 17, 2019, I think that “AGW” is a hoax, somehow designed for proponents to gain power over society. Makes me feel as if I am a conspiracy theorist.

“I would rather questions that cannot be answered than answers that cannot be questioned” Richard Feynman – Nobel prize for physics.

July 13, 2019: just for fun look at these temperatures and how people were doing:  I am kind of rooting for a peaceful Minoan Warm Period myself.

Temperatures

July 11, 2019: There is no man made climate changeFinnish and Japanese Universities.

July 10, 2019: this came across Twitter, why would a scientist want to change raw data?Old information; however, why is still a valid question.

Climate40sBlip

June 22, 2019: more climate and questions by an MIT PhD student, from Japan.  The article, although his book is in Japanese.

June 16, 2019:  Global Warming Fearmongers cannot predict well: Read here.

The environment seems to need help but the climate is not disintegrating.

Curiouser and curiouser: more snow? sunspot minimum?  what else do we NOT KNOW??    https://electroverse.net/european-ski-resorts-struggle-to-clear-this-seasons-historically-high-snowpack-still-up-to-40-feet-in-places/

May 29, 2019
GW_4000Yrs

May 25, 2019 – a scientist resigns from American Physical Society over GW. Longish, but telling.

May 23, 2019

The beginning of a long series of YouTube videos which talk about the variable sun and mini ice ages.  Actually kind of scary – the cold way.

May 22, 2019

Jon_A (Twitter) “Yes, alarmist scientists’ sea level predictions are so far off from reality that their journal articles get mocked by skeptical scientists. The last part of this reply to one such article made me laugh 😂

ClimateSeaLevel

May 18, 2019 – Bill Nye demonstrates global warming with a blowtorch.  Is the blowtorch really a stand in for the sun?  Video (with obscenities)

Contrast this with Judith Curry a Georgia Tech climate PhD.

May 10, 2019

This interpretation of SOME of the climate/ sun relationship makes sense as FAR AS I CAN UNDERSTAND.  I do not think this is all of it. Lots of evidence to me that CO2 is not the bottom line. That seems just too easy with the big hot star only 93,000,000 miles away and the earth wobbling around with different land and sea areas.

May 5, 2019

Interesting YouTube video which shows 2 different sets of NASA temperature data. Which is right? Why change your results?

April 24, 2019

A view on the environment that sounds reasonable to me:

from Twitter via: Georgia Ede MD
@GeorgiaEdeMD

“Got 12 minutes? Superb explanation of why grazing animals are so important to soil and environmental health. “If you choose to eat meat or not, that’s your decision; but if you care about the planet, you should care about this cycle.” HT ”

2:15 grass and flooding
5:30 recycling energy and nutrients
7:50 desertification

April 14, 2019

New (to me) PhD on Twitter: Greenhouse Theory blown out of the water. On his Twitter page, he also comments:  “William Connolley, a mathematician & software engineer with NO background in climate physics has edited THOUSANDS of Wiki articles to remove scientific references to the 1940-1975 cooling and the Medieval Warm Period. That’s a ROGUE!”

April 12, 2019

See a page https://home.chrisrentsch.com/ which seems to be independent analysis.

March 30

Response to an article in the CS Monitor

Climate change science does not lend itself to facile conclusions. The science itself is complex, many relationships are imperfectly understood, and then there is the daunting challenge of predicting the future. As I have written elsewhere, in fields like economics and climate change, there is no such thing as expertise about the future. In the words of a report from the Inter-governmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)—which your paper accepts as arguably the most credible authority that espouses the catastrophist position—“The climate system is a coupled nonlinear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible.”

Mar 25 or so..

Here is a fairly thorough discussion about one person’s view of “Climate Science.”  It came as a discussion of the headline the Duke University used fake science to obtain US government research money. The writer of the blog is a chemist with research in applied statistics… I do not know how those go together..  She, however, sees a lot of anti-fossil fuel activism in the Climate Science community.  I wish I had the background to see this as clearly as I think I see the nutrition info. But, but….

Feb 24, 2019:       The climate science model: what could be wrong?

ClimateScienceMethod

Feb 19, 2019:      Today’s shock: NASA hides solar info?

I also learned the sun varies 0.1% over an 11 year cycle. So add that to things that I do not know how affect our climate/ weather.

Feb 14, 2019

Following a couple of chemists on Twitter who seem to also be very much into statistical analysis, especially as applied to the Climate discussion.

A couple of quotes:  “A more realistic thesis would be: How the exploits irrational fear of trace atmospheric plant food to justify a radical imposition of socialism”

“Cherry-picked (or erroneous) data, entered into programmer-biased computer models, modelling an extremely complex, chaotic system….what could possibly go wrong?”

And then these graphs:

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Warm2Warm3Warm4

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Feb 13, 2019

And now this article with graphs.

Jan 30, 2019:    So none of it is valid – either way.

The “Friends of Science” webpage  starts with rotating quotes from leaders of the “Global Warming” cabal.  The following quote is typical. My point, of course, is that these people are selling something besides serious climate science. So none of it is valid – either way. In other words, I am not convinced climate science is even being investigated seriously.

“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”  ….. Maurice Strong, Senior Advisor to UN Secr-General Kofi Annan

Jan 28, 2019: Steve Goreham makes a 45 minute presentation where he blows most Global Warming/ Climate Change things out of the water. It was warmer a thousand years ago than now and he shows proof.

Jan 28, 2019

This came with comments about the last 5 years temps. Perspective? Climate change may be very dramatic and disruptive, but what is the cause? and which way will the temps go?

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Jan 27, 2019

From Twitter feeds, very confusing. This says CO2 max is END of Ice Age,

climate1climate2

Jan 26, 2019

A long term graph of temperatures and solar activity:

solaractivity

Jan 25, 2019

Here is a journal which looks at Climate Change. And consider this quote from that page:

WE need to get some broad based support,
to capture the public’s imagination…
So we have to offer up scary scenarios,
make simplified, dramatic statements
and make little mention of any doubts
Each of us has to decide what the right balance
is between being effective and being honest.

– Prof. Stephen Schneider,
Stanford Professor of Climatology,
lead author of many IPCC reports

Jan 12, 2019: